Surf photographer Jimmy Metyko joins the podcast. He talks about his new book "Shaping Surf History: Tom Curren and Al Merrick, California 1980-1983," which chronicles the influential wave-riding and surfing culture in Southern California, specifically Santa Barbara County, in the early 1980s. He discusses how he became a surf photographer and moved from his hometown of Houston, Texas, to be around and capture the surfing of up-and-comers at the time, like the legendary 1977 World Champion Shaun Tomson and pre-3x World Champion Tom Curren. He reflects on his experience photographing and traveling with this elite group of surfers, what it was like to witness firsthand the progression of surfing with the birth of the thruster and its refinement by Channel Islands Surfboards spearhead Al Merrick, and how passionate he is about surfing but even more about capturing surfers in his photographs.